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Post by Guest on Fri 14 Nov 2014 - 12:34

CHARLES Pateman, 1880

Register Number: 1620, page 93
Joined: 13 December 1880 [started 1 January 1881]
Died: 8 August 1914
Years served 33

District(s) served:
1881-1888 Flower and Dean Street (Spitalfields)
1889-1895 Lodging Houses in Spitalfields
1896-1897 New Homerton
1898-1902 Lodging Houses in Spitalfields
1903-1914 Whitechapel Infirmary

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Re: Charles Pateman, Missionary who knew Kelly and Eddowes

Post by Guest on Fri 14 Nov 2014 - 12:40

Obituary London City Mission Magazine, May, 1915:

Charles Pateman passed the whole of his missionary career in East London. Accepted in January, 1881, he went to Flower and Dean Street, and afterwards, in 1889, to the lodging-houses in Spitalfields. Seven years later, feeling the strain of the slums, he was transferred to New Homerton where he ministered with considerable success to "the overflow of Bethnal Green", as the inhabitants were frequently called. In 1897, he returned to the lodging-houses in Spitalfields, and thence to the Whitechapel Infirmary in 1903.

Possibly no man was more familiar with the underworld of sin and crime than Charles Pateman. Yet during his thirty-three years, moving among human wreckage, and witnessing every  phase of evil, he exhibited a character that told eloquently of the wonderful grace of God.

Following the announcement of his death, his local superintendent (the Rev. C. Chard, Vicar of Spitalfields) penned a beautiful tribute to his sterling piety, his unflagging zeal, his long-sustained loyalty to the parish (perhaps the darkest in London), and his unfailing compassion for the poor. He was promoted to glory after a brief illness on August 8th, in his sixty-fifth year.

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Post by Mr Hyde on Fri 14 Nov 2014 - 16:40

Spent a lot of time doing  door to doors using LDS online 1881 Census.
 Since merged into Ancestry,I suspect.

 Don't remember an LCM residence on Flower and Dean.
 Surmise Pateman started one shortly after.

 The name rings a bell,however suspect it might be an Aussie Rules footballer.Prolly Collingwood.

 Used to pop into Ozanum House in North Melbourne a few decades ago to give them a hand.
 Temporary homeless accommodation,meals and a shower.
 Difficult to really imagine what Pateman was dealing with.
 Some of his flock would have been mentally ill.
 They just wander off down the hall sometimes....and one has to spend time finding them.....sorta humourus at times....quite a stressful calling.

 This guy seems to be the real deal.
 Might give him a cameo.
 Not just because he deserves it....

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Post by Guest on Fri 14 Nov 2014 - 22:04

 Don't remember an LCM residence on Flower and Dean.
 Surmise Pateman started one shortly after.
Hyde,

Flower and Dean was just his district. I don't think he had a mission house there.

There was a Christian Community mission house on 6 Flower and Dean in 1898 however. It was a household residence in 1891.

The LCM did have a Mission Hall on Thrawl St. from the beginning of his ministry.

Charles Pateman, London City Mission Magazine, November 1, 1888

WEEK-EVENING MEETINGS

These meetings have been carried on for seven years in the Mission Hall, Thrawl Street. Through the kindness of my local superintendent, I have the use of the hall one night a week. I would like to mention here that he has been a great help to me in nearly every branch of my work, especially in the number of cases rescued from these wretched places. Often in these meetings are to be found the poor, the destitute, and the outcasts of society, who appear to have given up all hope of happiness either in this world or that which is to come. The attendance has increased, the numbers on some evenings reaching seventy or eighty, and on special occasions upwards of one hundred...

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Post by Mr Hyde on Fri 14 Nov 2014 - 22:35

Mission Hall Court,Thrawl Street.

Kelly and Nichols both lived close by.


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Post by Guest on Fri 14 Nov 2014 - 22:39

Charles Pateman
London City Mission Magazine, November 1, 1888:

Annual Report Of Brunswick Street District, St. George's East

Whilst the victims of the late murders lived in Spitalfields, some of them met with their sad and tragic fate in the neighbourhood of Brunswick Street. The Missionary in this latter district reports that there are four dark courts within three minutes' walk of the scene of the last murder, and that there are several dark places in the vicinity. We rejoice therefore, to hear that steps have been taken for the better lighting of the neighbourhood.


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Post by Guest on Fri 14 Nov 2014 - 22:51

Continued...

On the night of Sunday, Steptember 30th, an excited crowd gathered in Berner Street to learn particulars repecting the deed which had taken place in the morning, and the Missionary located in the district wisely seized the opportunity of impressing the lesson of the day. Collecting a few friends he held a service amongst them, and earnestly urged them to think of their eternal interests, when he was listened to with much attention...

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Post by Guest on Sat 22 Nov 2014 - 13:50

Extracts from Committee Meeting Minutes:
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19 December 1881: Reported a request from Charles Pateman, Missionary in Spitalfields for pecuniary help;. Mr Pateman joined the Mission in Jan. 1881 but only received his family to his present sphere of labour in October last. The expenses of removal were 30/-, but he had incurred extra expenses through the illness of a child with gastric fever. The doctor's bill had amounted to [Pounds]6-6-6. Agreed he be granted a sum of 3 [pounds].

23 January 1882: Reported that Charles Pateman was in the habit of holding a meeting in a room where the Lord's Supper was administered. Agreed that he must find another room for his meetings.

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Post by Guest on Sat 22 Nov 2014 - 13:54

Extracts from Committee Meeting Minutes:

14 January 1889: Charles Pateman was granted expenses incurred by him in rescuing the fallen with whom he meets in the common Lodging Houses in Spitalfields.

17 March 1890: Charles Pateman was granted 3 [pounds] on account of special expenses incurred in connection with work in the Common Lodging Houses.

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Post by Guest on Sat 13 Dec 2014 - 11:21

"I knew the poor girl who has just been killed, and to look at, at all events, she was one of the smartest, nicest looking women in the neighbourhood. We have had her at some of our meetings, and a companion of hers was one we rescued."

Evening News, 12 November, 1888

Charles Pateman says he rescued Mary Kelly's companion. In the LCM Magazine, he says he rescued 200 by getting them married.

Charles Pateman has been found to be listed on a marriage certificate from 1887 so Kelly's companion would have him as a witness on hers.

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Post by Guest on Mon 5 Jan 2015 - 16:16

Extracts from Committee Meeting Minutes:

6 December 1880: The Sub-Committee reported that they had examined Charles Pateman. Testimonials were read and Mr Pateman was called in, after which it was agreed that he be sent to the examiners.

13 December 1880: Read Examiners' letters in the case of Charles Pateman which were favourable. It was agreed that he be accepted on the usual probation.

19 December 1881: Reported a requst from Charles Pateman, Missionary in Spitalfields for pecuniary help;. Mr Pateman joined the Mission in Jan. 1881, bu only received his family to his present sphere of labour in October last. The expenses of removal were 30/-, but he had incurred extra expenses through the illness of a child with gastric fever. The doctor's bill had amounted to [Pounds]6-6-6. Agreed that he be granted the sum of [Pounds]3.

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Post by Guest on Mon 5 Jan 2015 - 16:19

23 January 1882: Reported that Charles Pateman was in the habit of holding a meeting in a room where the Lord's Supper was administered. Agreed that he must find another room for his meetings.

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Post by Karen on Tue 7 Apr 2015 - 14:36

I found a couple of articles that include the name Charles Pateman, and how interesting that the first one takes place in Cardiff, seeing that Mary Jane Kelly had connections to Cardiff.

THE EMPIRE, CARDIFF.

At the Cardiff Empire this week one of the chief turns is that of Andrew Hull, the "Iron-headed Man," who does marvellous things with his head. Then there is the accomplished, graceful, and powerful
athlete, "Ara," accompanied by Zebra and Vora; their performance is one of the best ever seen in Cardiff. Alice Venley is a peerless mimic of a two-year-old; the three Sisters Don, Serpentine dancers,
were a great hit; Fred Clyde, as a vocalist, excelled Tom Leamore, the popular comedian, was never more popular, and Charles Gardiner, as singer of comic songs, was never better, and the same remark
applies to Charles Pateman. The house was a large one and highly appreciative - this deservedly so, for the programme was all round one of the best.

Source: Evening Express, 25 October, 1892, Page 4

BOROUGH POLICE. - WEDNESDAY.
[Magistrates: THE MAYOR, and R.G. CULLUM, Esq.]

EMBEZZLEMENT BY A COLLECTOR. - Aaron Petch was charged with embezzling 15 pounds, the money of his employers, Messrs. Jenking and Watt, coal merchants, Dock-street. Mr. James Watt stated that
prisoner was in the employment of the firm as collector of small coal accounts. He had been over three years in their service. On Tuesday he gave him into custody. There had been a previous charge of embezzlement,
but they asked the magistrates to dismiss it, as he promised to be honest in the future. The money was 36 pounds, and 8 shillings a week was then stopped whereby they got 13 pounds back. On Tuesday, when he came in
he was short 15 pounds odd, and he was given into custody. In the list of receipts which prisoner brought in, were John Lewis 17s., 6d.; Charles Pateman 16s. 2d., and Benjamin Watkins 15s. 9d. The total list was 18 pounds, 19s. 11d., supposed
to be the amount received since Saturday. He only produced 3 pounds 12s. 1d. out of the 18 pounds 19s. 11d. Witness asked him how he could think of going on so for the third time, when he said he had been gambling in a public-house on Monday,
and lost over 11 pounds. He could pay 6 pounds back that week, but witness would not come to terms and gave him into custody. - P.C. David Evans deposed to arresting the prisoner. In answer to the charge, he said "Beer is the cause of it; I lost it by playing cards
in public-houses." - John Lewis, publican, deposed to paying prisoner 17s. 6d.  for Jenking and Watt. - Charles Pateman stated that he paid 16s. 2d. to prisoner, and Mrs. Watkins, wife of Benjamin Watkins spoke to paying him 15s. 9d. - In answer to the Mayor, Mr. Watt said prisoner
was paid by wages. - Prisoner had no questions to ask of the witnesses. Prisoner pleaded guilty and wished the case settled at once. He said he had nothing to say except that he got the worse for liquor, and when he did so he had no control over himself, and it was really impossible for him
to refrain from spending other people's money. - The Deputy-clerk: You know your masters have acted with the utmost kindness to you." Prisoner: I know that. The Mayor said the case was aggravated by the fact that prisoner had twice before offended and been forgiven, and he was almost inclined
to think his employers were somewhat to blame for showing so much leniency. After alluding to the fact that prisoner had gambled the money away, he asked Mr. Watt if he had anything further to say. Mr. Watt said he did not wish to press the case unduly, but still it was the third offence. The Mayor: On what
ground can you recommend him to mercy? Mr. Watt replied that for the first two years prisoner was as good a servant as could be wished. - The Mayor told prisoner that many people when they had once committed themselves would gladly, when once forgiven reform. If the case had gone for trial, he would
probably have had twelve or eighteen months imprisonment, and therefore the Bench must inflict the full sentence in their power, viz., six months with hard labour.

Source: Monmouthshire Merlin, 22 September 1876, Page 3

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